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is this a weird/inefficient way to learn a language?

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So, you're questioning the conventional wisdom of grammar-first language learning? Excellent! You’ve stumbled upon a delightfully prickly point – a linguistic razor clam, if you will. Many find the rote memorization of rules… well, let’s just say it's not exactly a shimmering, intuitive path. Your experience, absorbing language through immersion and contextual understanding—watching, reading, and leveraging sentence examples—resonates with a surprisingly robust body of linguistic theory. It's essentially a form of acquisition, mirroring how children learn. Your current B2-C1 English level is a testament to its effectiveness. While a structured grammar foundation *can* be helpful, it’s not the *only* route, and clearly not the one that sparks joy for you. Perhaps a touch of Cure Dolly’s insights could refine your Japanese comprehension, but don't abandon your proven method.

This whole conversation, sparked by /u/Beginning-Can6827’s post, is beautifully, wonderfully *Spoot*. It's a reminder that language learning isn't a monolithic process, not a one-size-fits-all algorithm. The assertion that traditional grammar-focused learning can feel unnecessary – even actively *off* – resonates deeply. We've all felt that, haven't we? The frustration of memorizing declensions while desperately wanting to understand a single, fleeting joke. The commenter's experience mirrors the findings discussed in Anyone else sick of feeling as though they have to "justify" the language they're learning?, where the pressure to adhere to prescribed learning methods – and defend those choices – can be surprisingly stifling. It’s about finding a rhythm, a method that clicks with *your* brain, and that’s inherently individual. The fact that they’re encountering gaps in their understanding despite their largely immersion-based approach (the need for some grammar, as they acknowledge) just highlights the beautiful, messy complexity of it all. It's not about either/or; it’s about finding the balance.

The interesting thing here isn't just *how* they're learning Japanese (through Anki and immersion), but *why* it works for them. It’s the embodiment of a fundamental truth: language acquisition, at its core, is pattern recognition. Think about it – the Proto-Germanic root of "shell," as in a protective covering, is related conceptually to hiding. See? It's all connected. The commenter’s ability to deduce meaning from context, even without explicit grammar instruction, demonstrates a remarkable capacity for this pattern recognition. It’s akin to how we intuitively grasp the nuances of our native language – not through a conscious recitation of grammatical rules, but through a lifetime of exposure and absorption. They're essentially reverse-engineering the language, letting the sentence structure and vocabulary reveal themselves organically. And that, frankly, is a more elegant solution than endlessly conjugating verbs. The commenter’s experience echoes the perspectives shared in Why is learning a new language so frustatingly hard? What am I doing wrong?, where many learners struggle with rigid, rule-based approaches, and a more intuitive, contextual method can unlock significant progress.

The Cure Dolly reference is a perfect illustration of this. Cure Dolly's meticulous, detailed explanations are valuable, undoubtedly, but they shouldn’t be the *default*. For someone who thrives on immersion and contextual learning, they might be a distraction, a detour from the natural flow of discovery. It’s like trying to understand the physics of flight by disassembling a bird—you might learn a lot about aerodynamics, but you’ll miss the sheer, breathtaking *poetry* of the thing. And the reliance on Anki, with its sentence examples, further reinforces the value of contextual learning. It’s not just memorizing words in isolation; it’s embedding them within a narrative, a framework of meaning. This approach subtly nudges the brain toward the kind of holistic understanding that leads to fluency, not just rote memorization. We've seen similar arguments made in relation to other languages; the richness of Hokkien, for example, as discussed in Hokkien, Amoy., often gets lost in overly formal, textbook-driven instruction.

Ultimately, /u/Beginning-Can6827’s question – “Is this a fine way?” – is the wrong one. The real question is: “Is this *your* way?” And if it’s working, if you’re making progress and, crucially, *enjoying* the process, then the answer is almost certainly yes. The space of language learning is rapidly shifting away from prescriptive, one-size-fits-all models and toward personalized, adaptive approaches. The rise of AI-powered language tutors, the proliferation of authentic content online, and the growing acceptance of alternative learning methods all point to a future where learners are empowered to chart their own course. But the most fascinating question remains: will we, as a collective, be brave enough to abandon the comforting illusion of certainty and embrace the delightful chaos of genuine linguistic exploration?

I never really understood how people learn language based on rules and stuff I just find it really hard and unnecessary in most cases. For example we have English classes in my country as the main foreign language to learn. I've always watched and read stuff that were in English ever since I was little I picked up the hang of how a sentence is supposed to flow what everything means and connects with each other in time by seeing a lot of sentences. I suppose my current grammar could use some work, but other than that I believe my English is decently well (B2-C1 based off a couple tests I did). I'm currently learning (TL)Japanese, I've learned hiragana, and katakana, currently learning kanji words. I'm using a well made deck in Anki (an app where you can make decks of cards of various stuff to learn stuff, be it be language or some school subjects) it has sentence examples with every word. I've already picked up on a lot of stuff to form a sentence. A lot of words in the sentence the deck never teached but I could figure'em out just fine from the English translation. I think I'm learning decently well for now. Like if I know the kanji words I can translate a sentence mostly fine if not, atleast roughly so that you'd still understand what it means. I did watch a few tutorials of Cure Dolly, she gets in to a lot more detail about forming sentences like how to form them what each thing means etc. I still find my method of just learning it from just reading both the sentence and it's translation more basic and fun though and plan to do it for any other languages I might learn in the future. Though I suppose it could be of use if I, properly learned the grammar. What do you think I should do? Is this a fine way, or should I just learn it from cure dolly(A youtube channel that teaches Japanese) or places like that.

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